tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8883907342870204095.post7591789878552469854..comments2023-10-31T11:57:39.387-04:00Comments on Authentic means REAL: Pagan Christianity by Barna and Viola Part 3Dennishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18077345966570168113noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8883907342870204095.post-43597856349164275012008-03-09T01:08:00.000-05:002008-03-09T01:08:00.000-05:00I am recommending that people read it. Their criti...I am recommending that people read it. Their critique of how the church drifted away from biblical teaching is largely valid. The problem comes in more with what they suggest instead.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18077345966570168113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8883907342870204095.post-84135977527887816312008-03-07T22:15:00.000-05:002008-03-07T22:15:00.000-05:00Hey Dennis, thanks for the link. Pagan Christianit...Hey Dennis, thanks for the link. Pagan Christianity? has generated a lot of discussion. My hope is that the benefits of all these conversations will outweigh the shortcomings of the book itself.AJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16135729997685992811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8883907342870204095.post-7063305963855255802008-03-01T12:18:00.000-05:002008-03-01T12:18:00.000-05:00I hated Revolution. It was a manifesto for individ...I hated Revolution. It was a manifesto for individualism, and showed no real understanding of biblical teaching on the body of Christ. Barna thought one valid form of fellowship was meeting a friend for a round of golf--just as good as any other kind of meeting.<BR/><BR/>I was super surprised that Barna and Viola teamed up because Barna seems real individualistic and shallow (like chatting with Christians online is one form of disciple making) whereas Viola is real tribal and into a specific kind of holy huddle that constitutes New Testament church. I guess they're working on a sequel that is supposed to explain how Revolution and Pagan Christianity somehow don't contradict each other. That'll be interesting.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18077345966570168113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8883907342870204095.post-63284901741408423492008-02-29T22:03:00.000-05:002008-02-29T22:03:00.000-05:00Oh I gotta read this book. Read my blog about his ...Oh I gotta read this book. <A HREF="http://remonstrance.neoblogs.org/2008/the-laodicean-revolution/" REL="nofollow">Read my blog about his previous book "Revolution."</A> It should've been titled "The Laodicean Revolution" (but that's too cynical). Sounds like this new book is more of the same un-biblical nonsense.<BR/><BR/>Barna has been astonishingly dogmatic and uncharacteristically unscientific in this effort to redefine apathetic Christianity as "Revolutionary" Christianity. <BR/><BR/>For example, from <I>Revolution:</I><BR/><BR/><B>"Know this: just as the prophets of old were unwelcome in their own hometown, so are Revolutionaries looked at askance by even their closest friends and family members."</B>Smooth Jazzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14324079980365080591noreply@blogger.com